The Update Podcast with Saul Klein, John Reilly, and Tristan Ahumada

Welcome to ”The Update Podcast with Saul Klein, John Reilly, and Tristan Ahumada” – your go-to source for the latest developments and insights in the ever-evolving world of Real Estate. Join industry veterans Saul and Tristan as they delve into breaking news, trends, and expert analysis, keeping you informed and ahead of the curve. Tune in to stay updated and empowered in the dynamic landscape of real estate.

Episodes

Jan 15, 2026

38 min

This episode of The Update is for anyone trying to understand why real estate still feels unstable long after the headlines moved on.
Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly break down what’s actually happening behind the scenes: the unresolved NAR settlement, growing MLS fragmentation, the rise of private listing networks, and why Zillow and Compass are no longer just platforms but power centers.
The discussion covers clear cooperation policy, MLS data control, Compass Anywhere, antitrust exposure, RESPA concerns, Zillow Flex, and how consolidation quietly reshapes who benefits and who doesn’t. This isn’t theory or speculation, it’s a real-time look at how litigation, data, and leverage are colliding.
If you’re a broker, agent, or industry leader trying to stay informed without drowning in noise, this episode helps you connect the dots and understand where real estate power is heading to next.
 
#RealEstateNews #MLS #NARSettlement #PrivateListings #Zillow #Compass #RealEstateIndustry #BrokerLife #TristanAhumada #SaulKlein #JohnReilly

Jan 15, 2026

38 min

Dec 17, 2025

32 min

Episode 42 of The Update is here, and shocker, the real estate industry is still very dramatic. Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly break down the latest NAR updates, brokerage decisions, and housing market news from December 16, 2025, without yelling “crisis” every five minutes.
This episode covers real estate news 2025, NAR policy changes, brokerage strategy, housing market trends, real estate industry analysis, agent business planning, broker leadership, commission conversations, housing data context, real estate regulation, market uncertainty, and what actually matters for real estate agents trying to run a business. If you want real estate commentary that adds context instead of panic, you are in the right place.
They talk through how recent National Association of Realtors headlines impact everyday agents, why some brokerage moves look smarter on LinkedIn than they do in real life, and how the housing market is behaving when you ignore the clickbait.
What you will hear in this episode:• NAR updates explained in plain language• Brokerage changes that affect agents and brokers• Housing market trends without the doom music• Honest takes on where the industry is headed
 
#realestatenews #narupdates #brokerages #housingmarket #realestateindustry #realtorlife #realestatepodcast #agentlife

Dec 17, 2025

32 min

Dec 5, 2025

32 min

Zillow is back in court. Again. Because apparently one lawsuit just is not enough.
In this episode, Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly break down the latest legal headaches facing Zillow, including the Compass listing access fight, the ongoing RESPA class action lawsuit, and what this all could mean for agents who played along.
We talk Zillow bans, MLS rules, discovery drama, electronically stored information, buyer steering, fiduciary duty risks, and why referrals still beat internet leads every day of the week. Plus, how all of this could ripple into 2026 and beyond.
If you are a real estate agent using Zillow leads, thinking about Flex, or just enjoy watching billion-dollar companies explain themselves in court, this one is for you.
Warning: This episode contains legal terms, agent anxiety, and the phrase “per se violation” more times than anyone wanted.
 
#realestate #zillow #realestatenews #realestateagent #housingmarket

Dec 5, 2025

32 min

Nov 21, 2025

25 min

Episode 40 of The Update digs into the biggest real estate news hitting every headline right now. Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly break down the NAR MLS rule changes, the fallout from years of antitrust pressure, and why this shift matters for agents across the US.
We cover the states already living under open MLS rules, how the Paulson and Thompson decisions shaped the landscape, and what it means for MLS access going forward. The crew also talks through the referral fee vote that split the NAR board and its delegate body.
Next, we go deep on the class action lawsuit hitting Zillow. We talk about the 40 percent referral fee, platform fees, the Preferred program, claims from agents, possible RESPA issues, and how this case might change referral programs across the industry.
We close with a clear look at AI, fair use, search changes, and why this matters for real estate pros who publish online.
This episode gives you straight talk on policy, lawsuits, and tech shifts shaping the real estate business right now.
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Nov 21, 2025

25 min

Nov 6, 2025

33 min

After what was supposed to be a “summer break” that somehow lasted through fall, Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly crawl out of the real estate rubble to find that the industry didn’t exactly calm down while they were gone.
Between the Compass–Anywhere merger, the Zillow vs. Compass lawsuit, MLS drama, and enough real estate litigation to fill a Netflix docuseries, this episode has all the chaos you missed. Oh, and AI decided to join the party too, because why not?
Featuring:
Tristan Ahumada — CEO of Lab Coat Agents and A Brilliant Tribe, still trying to keep real estate logical.
Saul Klein — Real Estate Internet Evangelist and consultant, basically the Gandalf of the MLS.
John Reilly — Real Estate Educator, Attorney, and self-proclaimed “recovering lawyer.”
They’re breaking down the latest real estate lawsuits, Compass and Anywhere acquisition rumors, Zillow’s sudden moral awakening, and how AI tools like ChatGPT might accidentally become the new MLS.
If you’ve ever thought, “How messy can this industry get?” the answer is “more.”
 
#realestate #compass #zillow #labcoatagents #tristanahumada #saulklein #johnreilly #realestateupdate

Nov 6, 2025

33 min

Sep 4, 2025

33 min

The real estate market is changing fast, and hosts Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly are pulling back the curtain on what’s really happening.
 
From the surprise rise in buyer agent commissions to billion-dollar lawsuits against NAR, Sitzer Burnett, and Gibson, this episode dives into the biggest legal and compliance battles shaping real estate today. The trio unpacks DOJ vs NAR, antitrust risks, MLS competition, Zillow vs Compass vs CoStar, copyright fights, and what it all means for brokers, agents, and homebuyers. They even tackle the possibility of a national housing emergency and how it could reshape affordability, zoning, and government regulation.
 
If you’re a real estate agent, broker, or investor who wants to stay ahead of industry shifts, this is the conversation you need to hear. Share your take in the comments. Where do you think the housing market is headed next?
 
 
#realestatepodcast #realestatenews #housingmarketupdate #realestatebroker #realtorlife #realestatelitigation #realestateindustry #realestateagents

Sep 4, 2025

33 min

Jun 26, 2025

27 min

In this episode, Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly talk through real estate updates that matter right now. They start with how RESPA rules are being looked at more closely, especially with Redfin’s W-2 setup and their connection with Rocket Mortgage. The way agents get paid and how referrals work could be affected, and the team walks through what’s happening and what to pay attention to.
 
They also bring up what’s going on with Open MLS policies. In places like California, Florida, Georgia, and Alabama, agents can access the MLS without being Realtors. That may open the door for more legal questions, especially around antitrust.
 
Toward the end, the group talks about the legal fight between Compass and Zillow, why listing visibility matters, and how platforms are competing for more control over the way people find homes. They also touch on how AI is slowly showing up in day-to-day business.
 
#realestate #respa #redfin #zillow #realestatelaw

Jun 26, 2025

27 min

May 29, 2025

34 min


This episode gets deep into the brewing civil war in real estate. Tristan Ahumada, together with industry veterans Saul Klein and John Reilly, broke down the growing tension between brokers over MLS listings, office exclusives, and the rising influence of portals like Zillow and Homes.com.
They covered the listing-as-a-marketing-asset mindset, NAR’s Clear Cooperation Policy, and what happens when listings are intentionally kept off the MLS. You'll hear their takes on exposure, consumer trust, and why transparency is the future of real estate.
 
If you care about where our industry is headed, you need to hear this.

May 29, 2025

34 min

May 15, 2025

40 min

The real estate world is undergoing a seismic shift and it's not slowing down. In Episode 35 of The Update, hosts Saul Klein and Tristan Ahumada are joined by legal and industry expert John Reilly for a power-packed conversation that breaks down today’s most pressing real estate changes.
 
Explore real estate’s biggest shifts in this episode of The Update as Saul Klein, Tristan Ahumada, and John Reilly tackle NAR changes, Compass, and more.
 
Key takeaways from this episode:
Deep dive into the NAR lawsuits and how they reshape commissions
Compass’ evolving brokerage model and its influence on the market
Breaking down the new MLS rules and what agents must know
The rise of full-stack, end-to-end real estate platforms
Redfin, Rocket, and the digital disruption taking over
Paradigm shifts and why everyone’s starting from zero
This episode goes beyond the headlines to deliver clarity, strategy, and action for real estate professionals navigating today’s volatile market.
 
Featuring:
Tristan Ahumada – CEO of Lab Coat Agents
Saul Klein – Real Estate Internet Evangelist
John Reilly – Renowned Real Estate Attorney and Educator
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May 15, 2025

40 min

Apr 24, 2025

28 min

The real estate industry is shifting fast. this episode breaks down the most urgent updates from Zillow, Compass, NAR, and Homes.com that every pro needs to know.
 
Tune in as Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly unpack key disruptions reshaping the future of listings, compliance, and broker strategy.
 
Covered in this episode:
Compass vs. MLS rules – Why their new strategy is raising eyebrows
Delayed marketing policies – What NAR's new rules mean for agents and clients
Real estate law & transparency – The growing impact of DOJ scrutiny
MLS evolution – Data, syndication, and the power shift underway
What real estate pros must do now to stay relevant and compliant
 
Get ahead of industry changes with insights from top voices in real estate leadership and legal strategy.
 
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Apr 24, 2025

28 min

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